Johannine Epsitles (1-3 John) Sin Quotes

How we cite our quotes: (Chapter: Verse)

Quote #4

Everyone who commits sin is guilty of lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he was revealed to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has either seen him or known him[…] Everyone who commits sin is a child of the devil; for the devil has been sinning from the beginning[…] Those who have been born of God do not sin. (1 John 3:4-6, 8-9, NRSV)

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him[…] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning[…] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:4-6, 8-9, KJV)

Now we do a kind of about-face. Before, the elder said that even believers sin, but now he seems to be saying that if you really believed, you would never sin. So which is it?

Quote #5

[God] loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins. (1 John 4:10, NRSV)

[God] loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (1 John 4:10, KJV)

Lots of big words here (propiti-what?!), but all the elder is saying is that God dug the people of earth so much that he sent his son to die for them.

Quote #6

If you see your brother or sister committing what is not a mortal sin, you will ask, and God will give life to such a one—to those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin that is mortal; I do not say that you should pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not mortal. We know that those who are born of God do not sin, but the one who was born of God protects them, and the evil one does not touch them. (1 John 5:16-18, NRSV)

If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. (1 John 5:16-18, KJV)

Here, the elder seems to be dividing out classes of sins. Some are run-of-the-mill sins (like stealing or lying), but some are mortal sins. The worst sin for the elder is breaking off from the Christian community, so that's probably what he's referring to. In other words, you can pray for thieves and liars, but don't even bother putting in a prayer for outsiders.